Rome fell.//I know. I was there.

[chicafrom3]

I CAN'T EVEN.

WHAT?

WELL THEN.

BRB, never sleeping again.

My thoughts are a DISORGANIZED JUMBLE but I'll try my best here.

♦ FIRST OF ALL because it's first on my thoughts: Amy's Schrodinger's pregnancy. The way the scanner kept flipping between positive and negative. "You will bring the Silence." Connected? I THINK SO. :|

♦ I don't buy that River and the Doctor are meeting in precise reverse chronological order. As a general rule, sure, yeah, they are mostly coming at the relationship from opposite ends. Strictly speaking we-meet-linearly-just-in-reverse? No. I don't buy it. River, I am sure you will encounter a later-timeline Doctor occasionally even after this happens in your personal timeline.
♦ ♦ Wow, talking about time-travel gets complicated sometimes. We need better tenses in English.
♦ ♦ ♦ It also just doesn't hold up with what we've seen before, has it? Syncing diaries doesn't make sense if they're meeting precisely back-to-front.

♦ Canton Everett Delaware III ♥♥♥
♦ ♦ Just saying. "This person you want to marry... black?" "Yes." "I'm a little more liberal than they..." "He is." Oh, Canton. I wish we'd gotten to see his guy, but MAYBE THEY WILL TURN UP TOGETHER IN A FUTURE EPISODE OR SOMETHING IDK TIME TRAVEL AND SHIT YOU GUYS.
♦ ♦ ♦ No, really, the Doctor still hasn't found out about his death/the envelopes/why they were all there to begin with, and eventually he's going to have to. And then we can see Canton again!
♦ ♦ ♦ ♦ It's Mark Sheppard, okay, we can't give him up that easily. ... all right, this is getting ridiculous I'll stop this section now.

♦ Amy/Rory are MY OTP for this era. His stupid face and she can always hear him and ohhh my heart.

♦ I like the clarification on Rory's memories of The Lone Centurion. That was well handled.

♦ AMY
♦ ♦ Amy trapped in the children's home was one of the most TERRIFYING THINGS EVER.

♦ River is BADASS you guys she's awesome I just can't ♥♥♥ And then she freaking BROKE MY HEART at the end even though I still can't buy that she'll never see a later-timeline Doctor who likes kissing her again IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
♦ ♦ On the other hand, "Open all the doors to the swimming pool!"

♦ River and Rory are still ♥ and so are Amy and Canton as a team and OH I LOVE TEAM TARDISES SO MUCH ♥♥♥

♦ LITTLE GIRL TIME LORD
♦ ♦ No really, LITTLE GIRL TIME LORD WTFFFFFF
♦ ♦ ♦ I CAN'T EVEN

♦ There are far too many unresolved plot threads for this to be a real conclusion. I expect story arc ahead for the season! *excited*

Okay, stepping away from plot/characterization for a moment...

♠ These episodes have been so pretty. They really made the most of shooting on location.

♠ I really really want to buy the cinematographer a drink. The lighting this two-parter was PERFECT and really added to the creepiness.
♠ ♠ Hey, Doctor Who lighting team, if you need another gaffer I will do whatever it takes to get to Cardiff and work for you. I have no experience at all in TV or film, but I will learn fast in order to work on your lights. PLS?

In conclusion, NEVER SLEEPING AGAIN.

Next week: PIRATES!

Comments

[chicafrom3.livejournal.com]

The Lodger one is the most blatant (and it is really blatant, omg) but I can see them all!

Actually less scared than jealous of Moff's brain. How does he plan this far ahead??

[tallyen.livejournal.com]

Honestly? I think the late-RTD era. The Library was the mid-season 4 cliff-hanger and I believe Moffat knew by then he was the next showrunner.

In Forest of the Dead, just after 10 clicks his fingers to open the Tardis doors and begins to walk in... there is a distinctly Silent noise. It's faint but there.

In End of Time, in the church scene between Wilf and the unnamed Time Lady, there is a strange shape that is similar to the black figures in TBB.

Christmas Carol, when Abigal sings to 'unlock the clouds' you can see a strange figure observing her and Kazran (sp?).

[tallyen.livejournal.com]

OH!

There's also the weirdness in the TPO with the Tardis doors that the phone vanishes. However I still think that's a continuity mistake as someone was fired over the number of epic fucks ups early in S5.

[chicafrom3.livejournal.com]

See, now I'm having LOST-fandom flashbacks. How do we tell the difference between clues and accidents?

[tallyen.livejournal.com]

:D I thought of LOST too!

Well someone was fired from DW (I want to say the scene continuity guy) around the airing of S5E5 and Moffat wrote a disparaging comment on Twitter which he later removed.

It's widely held that the 11-dangling-from-the-Tardis scene that made it into the episode was the wrong one (a near finished draft shoot). The CGI is terrible and plain wrong in places.

In the first half of S5 there's a vast number of fuck ups with extras walking past twice, scenes out of flow (check Matt pulling the glowing Tardis key from his pocket... it happens twice). The CGI model from the RTD era was used in the scene where River blows herself out the airlock, which is incredibly noticeable in High Definition due to it being an SD render.

I think where the 4th wall is broken and you can see a definite fuck up then it's an accident. Where it's a subtle nearly unnoticeable moment then it's intention.

I AM A NERD! --actually not really, the mistakes are just so astoundingly obvious in HD.

[chicafrom3.livejournal.com]

Well, but then there's also stuff like Rory's hospital badge having the wrong year on it in TEH -- I know a lot of people built theories around that and assumed it was an indication that Leadworth was somehow temporally screwed-up, but then Moff came out and said LOL, no, it was a mistake by the prop department. Sometimes it is both subtle and accidental!

But the CGI stuff had some pretty blatant mistakes in S5. XD

(check Matt pulling the glowing Tardis key from his pocket... it happens twice)

Would you believe this is the only one that consistently bothers me on rewatches? YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THAT, DOCTOR.